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Arguments for reducing the position
- Completely new team that are yet to prove themselves: ‣ (30%)
- Negative user trends and industry decline: Match Group User and Engagement Trends (20%)
- Relying on prices to compensate payer decline may not be sustainable due to threat from rivals: [It might lose more users to rivals (Tinder and Hinge) as it aggressively raise prices. Tinder only raised prices by 5% in Q3 while Hinge raised prices by 8.6%. Bumble app on the other hand raised prices by 10.5%. Also, Bumble app’s ARPU is approaching that of Hinge ($28.3 versus $32.9), which has better user perception. As a result, raising prices may not be sustainable in the near-term as risk of losing users to rivals is high.](https://curved-newsboy-c80.notion.site/It-might-lose-more-users-to-rivals-Tinder-and-Hinge-as-it-aggressively-raise-prices-Tinder-only-r-2a3950cb7377809aa204ffed1670ab3f) (10%)
- Further deterioration in earnings may impact its ability to pay back the term loan of $589 million (as at September 2025 in January 2027) plus interest payments of around $50 million per year: Analysis of Balance Sheet and Cash Flow Statement (10%)
- It’s better to buy a good company at a fair price than to buy a bad company cheaply (Buffet’s words). Waiting until trends improve before buying more or having a large position may be better.(5%)
- I expect further price pressure due to the risks surrounding the company. (5%)
- The TRA buyout which carried 50% discount and whose payments ($27-59 million per year for 15 years) could signal that insiders are cautious on the company’s future profitability? [Aron’s assessment: The TRA buyout which carried 50% discount and whose payments ($27-59 million per year for 15 years) could signal that insiders are cautious on the company’s future profitability?](https://curved-newsboy-c80.notion.site/Aron-s-assessment-The-TRA-buyout-which-carried-50-discount-and-whose-payments-27-59-million-per--2a2950cb737780d583c7d1d0578ee03a) (5%)
- Possibility of multiple app usage by users, leading to faster churn. According to Apptopia data, 50% of Bumble users are in Tinder while 22% of Tinder user are in Bumble. (5%)
- Blackstone could be preparing to dispose of its stake by converting its entire common units into Class A Common Stock. This could drive share price down further: ‣
Arguments against reducing position
- Wolf Herd being the founder will do whatever it takes to turn around the company including further cost reductions (i.e. layoffs) if necessary (35%)
- Wolfe Herd now seems to control 62 % of Bumble’s total voting power after Blackstone converted its entire common units into Class A Common Stock as of November 5, 2025: ‣
- Possibility of large reversion in payer declines once safety and trust measures are complete next year. 80% of the decline in payers in Q4 (-16%) was due to the trust and safety measures and reduction in marketing expense: Cook: Q3 payer decline driven by Trust and safety work and reduction in marketing spend (contributed approximately 80%).→where is the other 8% decline coming from? (20%)
- The Beehive Fit Framework may ultimately lead to higher quality platform, enabling Bumble to increase prices further: User Quality Segmentation (15%)
- Better match-making through AI, leading to higher ARPU. (15%)
- First-mover advantage in women app dating. (10%)
- $100 million costs savings next will largely compensate the decline in revenue: The $100 cost base savings so far include approximately $40 million related to the June workforce reduction. (5%)
- Around $26 million savings from alternative payment systems: Tailwind from alternative billing system
- I think the possibility of losing a lot of users to Hinge might be low given the strong psychological moat: Bumble User and Engagement Trends
- If our conviction on the long-term opportunity is strong then share price headwind in the short term is just noise!
Conclusions
My current take is to reduce the position. I think the risks are a lot which would put share price under pressure in the short-term.
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MM
Arguments for reducing the position
Arguments against reducing position
- Ai potential + The upsides feels significantly larger than the downside and the business is relatively cheaply valued (35%)
- Founder + strategy + longterm vision feel great overall (25%) - Founder done it before.
- See some signs of good execution e.g new brand campaign, app is working (+ also some new functions in the app like compliments, app feels stable, many users in Malta) (10%)
- Potential for increasing ARPUS. E.g. via new monetization functions etc. etc. or simply higher prices to counterbalance user loss. (10%)
- Probably company can keep cutting costs + raising prices if needed (10%)
- Many men who pay use multiple dating apps in parallel and pay for all of them (?)← Theory (5%)
- Unlikely that company marketcap falls as low as 300m?! (2$ a share) ← Theory. (5%). Stock price is down already too much.
- Potential feels exciting. Somehow i (MM) want to have a part of it (5%)
Conclusion
MM: I decided to not reduce the position. It’s a small position and most important criteria: founder + execution + technological revolution / accelerator (ai) + cheap valuation - in total some of the most important criteria of my successful investments in the past are still intact.
So willing to take a risk here with a small position and increase instantly if we see signs of sustained turnaround.
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Further ToDos
In future aim to make such decisions early to avoid being caught up by market movements!
Before earnings: Make a decision on whether to buy or sale before immediately the results are out